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to chuck hagel what they were able to do to susan rice but it's not going to work this time because the white house is fighting back. they're already doing so. we've got to join that fight. we'll talk about that and a whole lot more. first, we get the latest, today's current news update, here she is, lisa ferguson out in los angeles. hi lisa. >> hey bill. welcome back. as bill mentioned obama's new appointments to his national security team are drawing some criticism from capitol hill. first off former senator chuck hagel who the president officially chose yesterday as his defense secretary. obama called him an american patriot and the leader our troops deserve. if confirmed hagel will be the first vietnam vet and the first enlisted soldier to become secretary of defense. republicans are criticizing the former senator for not having enough support for israel and not taking a hard enough stance against iran. democrats are also getting tough on hagel. newly-elected senator tammy baldwin, also the first openly gay u.s. senator says she plans on questioning hagel for his anti-gay commen
away from the susan rice pick. he gave in on taxing the top income earners at the rate he wanted. and so far he's really just tiptoed kind of cautiously around gun control. so this a confident obama based on the agenda you're seeing or a caution one? >> reporter: focusing on foreign policy, i think you'd have to say this is a confident president obama right now. just consider the selections of chuck hagel, john kerry, even though it's not susan rice, but also john brennan compared to four years ago. jim jones did not work out. there was secretary gates at defense that was brought over from the bush administration before him. and so i think in many ways this sort of demonstrates that the president feels he'll put his imprint on foreign policy going forward from him. hillary clinton a choice that some may have viewed as a concession of secretary of state and worked out well for both sides. >> david, you know, chuck hagel has gotten some opposition from the left and the right. do you expect in a second term now elected and safe obama might get some more opposition from the left, fro
't think we should change the talking point -- clarify the talking points that susan rice leading up to the al-qaeda. i've told three stories. director of national intelligence said they changed the talking point. f.b.i. said no, it might have been us. because of ongoing criminal investigation. the final answer believes the c.i.a. may have changed the talking point deleting references to al-qaeda. i'm not going to confirm john brennan or anyone else until the administration shares information with the congress about who deleted references to al-qaeda three weeks before the election. i think it was purposefully done and i want to know who did it before we move forward. >> you're committed to holding the nomination up? >> yeah. i don't want to. but i'm not going to let the administration get away from having to be held accountable. the state department, you will hear from hillary clinton. who did change the talking points and take al-qaeda out? what did the president do in seven hours? they are making two movies about the strong leadership and the bin laden raid. this administration le
up there, something susan rice was not able to do when she was in play. >> rose: she went up there but it didn't work. >> i think he needs to emerge from those meetings with at least a different tone. i think senator mccain is extraordinarily important. he supported senator mccain in 2000, didn't support him in 2008. senator schumer on the democratic side is important and mitch mcconnell the republican leader are important. there will be some republican senators opposed. he needs to hold the democrats in advance of his hearings and he needs to come out of the hearings, again, with a solid democratic support and a lot of republican support. i don't think he's going to get an overwhelming vote from the republicans, at least right now. doesn't feel that way. but i think he'd like to get 20 of them, 25 of them. that would be at this point probably best case for the white house. >> rose: but is the republican opposition to him primarily over some policy position he has about america's engagement overseas and the end of it, as david spoke to, or is it about what he has said or what
here. no question. we thought it was susan rice for secretary of state. not surprising for a president who won an election to decide to pick one or two big personnel fights. that happens in politics. think think -- the white house calculation, jim's dead right about the iraq war. if we have to re-debate the iraq war, they're on the high ground for that one and hearing criticism he's soft. normally when a democrat does that, they want someone that's tough because the criticism historically is they're soft on defense and here's a republican choice labeled as soft, soft on israel and soft coming to iran sanctions. john mccain and other conservatives say soft with the end of the iraq war and the president's comfortable with him and comfortable with the new cia chief. the president doesn't have to face re-election. this is the second term a different set of calculations and thinks he has work to do, diplomacy. they think they'll win in the end. >> i want to ask you about hagel's israel comments because he made some pretty pointed comments about israel and going to quote them. in one, hagel
organization of women website. when ambassador susan rice was being attacked, they weren't rising to her defense. her name was the only one of the national security team being floated out there and you would have thought they would have come to her defense. a group of black women, national black womens roundtable stepped out there. you had the congressional black caucus. where was n.o.w. when they could have defended susan rice and kept her name alive to be nominee as secretary of state? >> the susan rice contrast is a very interesting one for a number of reasons. one of them is that susan rice technically took herself out of contention but there was a perception that she had been abandoned by the white house. whereas chuck hagel, a ton of people not only on the political right were raising objections to hagel and yet the white house hung tough on behalf of hagel which is very telling, i would suggest. i think when you're looking at senator kerry and senator hagel, you are looking at two people who served as mentors to president obama when he first entered the senate, with whom he feels
.s. ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. you know, again, i could go through the list. this president has appointed -- has made two appointments to the supreme court both of them women. i think that his commitment to -- >> do you think it's an unfair charge? >> i think that the record speaks for itself. >> the record does speak for itself, doesn't it? joining me now for our daily fix, chris alissa, msnbc contributor managing editor of post politics.com, msnbc's white house correspondent kristen welker and washington post opinion columnist ruth marcus. ruth, i got to start with you because of the headline writers on your column -- >> thank you very much. copy desk. >> the headline was? >> binders full of women. >> beaninders full of women. what is going on here? that is the question that a lot of people are asking. >> it doesn't look so attractive. no disrespect to the looks of it. men involved. i am not a fan of bean counting and counting up numbers of women and numbers of minorities, but it is striking and it is disconcerting and it is disappointing to see in the big four jobs no fem
for the job? should we discriminant. >> janet napolitano h susan rice. >> an african-american woman completely pushed out of the way by republicans. >> it's embarrassing as hell. >> brought us whole binders full of women. >> of two appointments to the supreme court, both of them women. >> guys golfing with him, guys playing basketball with him. women have complained quietly about being excluded at the white house. >> the record speaks for itself. >> let's get to our panel now. msnbc political analyst karen finney while slouching but now isn't, and msnbc contributor goldie taylor joins us. karen, what's your view to the apparent lack of diversity in the president's cabinet as he moves forward? >> on the one hand i was disappointed in the picture, but i do feel like we need to wait and see what the full complement looks like and as others have pointed out, there are women in the cabinet, he has put two women in the supreme court. overall in the first term he's had a stellar record. at the same time though, martin, my bigger point here is i think we need to take the bigger picture. this is not ju
? this comes, of course, against the back drop of susan rice and the cratering of her nomination. >> sure. the first thing that happened was this enormous and i think pretty unjustified republican reaction against him because if you look at chuck hagel on paper, he is the perfect gop candidate. you know, combat veteran, businessman, earned millions of dollars in the private sector, very successful washington career. was an organizer for ronald reagan. as senator, supported missile defense, defense increases, don't ask don't tell. i mean, right down the line very sort of doctrine supporter of defense. i was pretty shocked to see this huge outcry against him, and i think it goes back to things other than chuck hagel. >> yeah. just maybe. karen, lindsey graham saying this is an in your face nomination. he would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense. sharp words, which probably p r portends something more than just policy disagreements. >> true, although at this point lindsey graham has kind of lost all if not most of his credibility because he sort of has been balking at just about
, chuck hagel. where does mccain come down on this? very much against susan rice. i find it hard to believe mccain's going to be against chuck hagel, given the kind of bonds that they have. >> chuck hagel was against john mccain in 2008. >> i'm not saying they weren't against each other on policy matters. we're talking about a confirmation here. >> didn't he endorse barack obama? >> i think he spoke favorably of him. >> i don't think he endorsed him. >> unofficial surrogate. >> again, this is a confirmation hearing where the senate dgives deference to the president. mcconnell, around this "politico" story with quotes from mcconnell's farewell speech to hagel where he points out that hagel saved mcconnell's brother in vietnam, so we're not really sure. and singing his praises. >> that's only in the movie version. >> it's going to be hard for mcconnell to oppose him vocally here. >> that kind of sums everything up because if you watched yesterday's "meet the press," i mean, all this talk last week about the president's personality being difficult and unapproachable and isolated, ex
think there's a psychological element. he wanted susan rice as secretary of state. >> u.n. ambassador. >> u.n. ambassador, and she was heavily criticized by various others and she withdrew her name and i think he was simply determined that he wasn't going to be pushed around again, that he was going to pick hagel and also he has a friendship with hagel that goes back. >> paul: to the senate days. >> for several years so i think it -- a lot of these decisions aren't just simply ideological or policy decisions, there's a personality. >> paul: do you think he wants a fight? >> i think he's had a fight, probably fight that he thinks he can win and calling over to the senate and house both. what is striking to me as well, hagel doesn't have experience in what he's tasked to do, running the pentagon. president obama involves we're not getting involved in syria or push too hard, his main job is to run pentagon. >> he was enlisted in vietnam, and distinguished service, two purple hearts and knows what it's like to be an enlisted man and fighting on the ground and have those people foremost in
. they were able to ding him by denying him the choice of susan rice, the u.n. ambassador to be the president's next secretary of state. they view going after chuck hagel as being one more notch in this crazy war against the president when a lot of people in the country want congress to focus not so much on chuck hagel as they want them to focus on what's happening with sequester and the budget and debt ceiling and other things that have direct impacts on people's lives. from a policy standpoint, does this come down to bush era neocon, that reminds them that he opposed the war. >> he did oppose the surge. for republicans this is about somebody whom they disagree with on policy and never liked that much in the senate because he wasn't the kind of senator that had a lot of friends, that played the relationship game at a high level. and so it's not like he has solid friendships that can help republican members of the senate who serve with him overlook their policy disagreements with him. ultimately, i expect senator hagel to tell members -- to tell the senate and tell republicans that he is ther
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down following the whole susan rice controversy, whether she should be clinton's successor at the state department, she withdrew her name, as our viewers remember. if he would have caved on this one, he would have looked incredibly weak, i think, don't you agree? >> well, two things. one, i don't think he caved on susan rice. she was never nominated. and susan rice actually took herself out of the running for that. but -- so i don't think it's caving in on this. i've got to go back to something to point to ari. look, he was a republican. a sitting republican senator. if that's not bipartisan, i mean, i don't know what is. i have to, again, go back to what chuck hagel's real crime is here. and that is not playing the politics, the political ways of washington, which means you have to walk in lock step with your party. and if you walk outside of that, you'll be punished for it. i think that's what you're seeing right now. and the republicans attack on chuck hagel. especially when he went the opposite direction on his party. with the war in iraq. and guess what, he was right. >> this is a
for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as ten different democratic senators opposed to chuck hagel and it's going to be up to the white house to wage a significant campaign using some democrats like senator jack reid from rhode island to win them over. the white house probably decided that they needed to go ahead and fight for chuck hagel in this matter. i've heard from the white house that the susan rice and john kerry were pretty much tied folks going in to that state department gig. president obama going with john kerry but you are seeing the white house going for a full throttled fight to get and to win chuck hagel and not going to be easy. >> mark murray, thank you so much. happy new year. see you tomorrow. >> thanks. >>> another group that's voiced opposition to chuck hagel's nomination is gay rights activists. at issue, comments hagel made in 1998 about james hor mel, president bill clinton's nomi e nominee. he was called openly aggressively gay and called it an inhibiting factor. hagel apologized for the remarks last mon
on like it was going to go to this woman, a current ambassador to the united nation, susan rice. susan rice is a long-time friend and ally of the president whose name was floated very early on as a favorite for secretary of state. ultimately, though, before anybody was nominated for the position, the white house sort of backed down from the prospect of nominating her. they allowed her to take her name out of the running when republicans attacked her for the grave, grave crime of saying something wrong on sunday morning talk shows. something that by the way turned out to be mostly correct. but never mind, they criticized her anyway, and the white house did not back her up in the face of that criticism, and her name was removed from consideration. now, faced with another high profile nominee who has attracted loud republican nomination, this time it appears the white house is not backing down. this time president obama has officially nominated chuck hagel to be secretary of defense as of today. interestingly, another potential nominee for a big high profile national security job for this
that. >> it doesn't explain why he didn't stand behind susan rice. if that was really his view. he's choosing the fight over hagel, in part i'm sure because he gave up on susan rice. why didn't he do it for her? >> it's possible he never was for susan the way others were. there really was a split in that white house. >> it looked like it had touched a personal cord with him when she was being criticized. may be separate from whether he wanted her for the job. i think the attitude is what's driving this on hagel. and i think his comfort level, his knowledge that if he's going to deal with defense budget cuts, he wants a republican in there. i'm not sure as andrea mitchell has pointed out that having somebody who seems to have such a difficult relationship with republicans is the best one to lead that fight. >> well, no, it is sort of the idea in what's in practice seemed to be two different things. watching republican reaction here. so jeff sessions, senator from alabama, says he's going to put a hold on jack lew. lindsey graham says he's going to put a hold on john brennan. are th
to go, and this is the mainstream policy. >> john: before we go to break do we expect a fight with susan rice. he must have known that this would have come with chuck hagel. >> yes, joe mentioned this. this will drive a wedge in the republican party. there is not only a realist perspective in the republican party in terms of foreign policy and a neo-con one but there is a growing isolationist in the republican party and this fracture is about republican coalition. in that regard i think there is an opportunity for a fight. at the end of the day this appeals to sort of i think in many respects president obama's favorite constituency, which is the beltway media. this idea bipartisanship and this notion of having a republican sort of daddy figure in some respects filling this role is very appeal to go part of the beltway media. so i think this is--to the extent that this is going to be a fight, i think it's one that he's looking forward to. >> john: if hagel is the daddy figure then the nominee is the cheney figure. the c.i.a. boss is the same as the old c.i.a. boss coming up next. [ male a
. but he had options. >> bill: he also could have said to susan rice, you know, susan, i understand. we may not win this battle but you're the best person i think for that job and apparently that's what he did think and i'm going to make this fight. it is important to me to have you there. >> it also makes it more important now than ever that we embrace your idea of replacing hilda solis as secretary of labor with jennifer granholm. >> bill: there you go. started right here. i even talked to jennifer. i'm going to do her show tonight on current tv. >> you should say something. >> bill: yeah. maybe i should call her madam secretary. but i haven't even asked her whether she would accept the job that i've now given her. >> just details. >> bill: charles is in dallas, texas. hi charles. >> caller: how's it going, bill? >> bill: good. what's up? >> caller: i think this issue is a lot bigger than just obama and his appointments. if you look at the united states senate, for example, how many african-americans are there? >> bill: one. happens to be a republican. sadly. >> caller: so i think it's ju
this comes after susan rice's nomination was arguably pulled. people believe that the president wanted susan rice to be secretary of state, and she was making a very public effort to court senators up on capitol hill for that nomination. she withdrew her name herself, but it was believed that the president wanted her to be that nominee, at first. she wasn't. and this nominee, chuc chuck hailing was under fire from the start. it doesn't seem that the president wanted to pull this potential nomination and is ready for this fight. he will likely have the votes, jon. and it may be a bumpy ride to get there, but he'll likely get there. and how much political capitol it takes to get there is really the question on both of these nominations. at the end of the day, the presidents usually get who they want to have in their cab tphefplt it's cabinet. it's a rare event when they don't. it does happen up here in washington but for the most part they can usually get the votes. jon: even more rare when a nominee is a former senator. how about john bren an also withdrew his name from consideration to be ci
this is that president obama obviously got a lot of flack over susan rice and decided that was not a battle he was willing to fight. and so when she said, i don't want any more -- any more to do with this, he said okay. i will accept. i am not going to nominate you. chuck hagel, he decided he is going to go to the mat on the this one. i think he wins. >> absolutely. how does he not win? you know, it's him reaching across the aisle. he is doing exactly what he has been attacked every day, district attorney in and day out for the last four years, you know, by republicans for claiming that he is not doing, which, of course, you know which is reaching out, working with republicans, taking one of their own, you know, and not one much these country club old school republicans that i think really make up the vast majority of folks that colin powell talked about with his initial response with the tapping of the party. somebody who i think is respected but has some very conservative views, too. >> chuck hagel secretary of defense. at a time does speak -- and when we come
nations, susan rice, go on tv in the days after attack and say it was a response to a video, not a terror attack? republican senator lindsay graham says -- quote -- "i do not believe we should confirm anyone as director of the c.i.a. until our questions are answered. like who changed the ambassador susan rice's talking points and deleted the references to al qaeda. my support for a delay in confirmation is not directed at mr. brennan but is an unfortunate yet necessary action to get information from this administration." senator graham says he's been told various accounts about who changed the talking points for ambassador rice. he's been told it was the director of national intelligence, the f.b.i., the c.i.a. but says -- quote -- "this ever-changing story should be resolved." back to you guys in new york. brian, do you think he'll be out for a year? >>brian: we're going to find out today, if he flies to pensacola, florida, in the owner's plane to find out if the l.c.l. and a.c.l. is torn. we'll see. there is a lot of swelling. but i heard that you will personally go over to his house an
walked away from susan rice. why does he want this fight? >> it's a great political idea on his behalf. if there's a big fight over this defense pick, it's going to be between republicans. right? republicans are in disarray on a number of issues. speaker boehner just survived a confidence vote that was a little bit dicier than we originally thought. there's a disagreeance on spending and a bunch of other issues. there's disagreements on defense. there's some new republicans who say, hey, we've got to stop this kind of knee network promilitary, pro interventionism out there. those people really like chuck hagel. there's other republicans who really hate chuck hagel. let this fight be between republicans i'm thinking is what barack obama is looking at. >> chuck hagel has managed to make people e iing jewish group rights groups. as he put it, i'm a united states senator. i'm not an israeli senator. he called a nominee for ambassador openly aggressively gay. he did apologize for that. that happened some time ago. and said he misspoke. but, perry, what do you think? how tough could this fig
and susan rice opted not to pursue her candidacy for secretary of state in the face of opposition i think the president will not back down on this one and you can expect him to press very hard and ultimately i think success in the senate on confirmation. >> let me turn your attention to the debt ceiling debate which will ramp up in earnest to the extent it didn't already on sunday morning talk shows. you were made aware of analysis that indicates we will hit that debt ceiling maybe even sooner or than the treasury will have to start taking its ex record to marry steps even sooner than we thought. so what happens if we really get to the point where we go over, and what the next steps? what does the treasury do? >> very difficult choices. the treasury would have to prioritize bill paying. they could do it by the day. do it by the type of expense they are going to repay. presumably sovereign debt would be repaid first. but given the fact this is unprecedented, never happened before, you could have the president reconsidering his assertion that he could not use executive authority. the presid
you're first making to the white house. >> reporter: climate is still a factor. susan rice withdrew her name to replace hillary clinton under pressure over her actions after the benghazi attacks. >> i think the political climate matters a lot now with who you pick. it shouldn't but it does. >> reporter: and there's pressure under the president to consider diversity after a lineup that so far includes men. >> the president values diversity, believes it's important. because it enhances the quality of a pool of potential nominees for positions across the administration. but the goal in the end is to find the very best individuals for these specific positions. >> reporter: and carney insisted that the president had indeed found the best in chuck hagel, john brennan, and senator kerry and that as the president looks to fill these other positions, finding the best is what will guide him. wolf? >> the president also has an important visit with the afghan president hamid karzai. what do they hope to accomplish? >> reporter: that's right, wolf. they will have a bilateral meeting. you can alr
's payback for susan rice. what it boils down to regarding chuck hagel is he is hard on israel and he is soft on iran. nonetheless, there is great big ads on "politico"'s play book that are touting mr. hagel. as it turns out, they have done some checking into it and there is a guy who is a big funder of media matters who is doing the funding. he is a guy by the name of bill benter, a major donor to media matters, also a contributor to j. street. he gave media matters money to support the works of m.j. rosenberg who had been their foreign policy guy for awhile until last year when alan dershowitz was talking about he is an extremist and the white house has to walk away from him. m.j. was eventually fired from media matters. nonetheless media matters is producing content pushing hagel. >>brian: that's fascinating, that they get involved at this level. let's talk about a bigger story. what about miss alabama? miss alabama was the story because notre dame did not show up on the big night for monday night football so brent must -- musburger was skraoepg for anything of interesting. he found miss a
susan rice and making the hague el issue much more complicated. we have to just put a name out and rather than floating them for weeks. >> gives democrats a chance to get in there. doubly hurtful. i hope that chuck hagel is asked why he refused to designate hezbollah as a terrorist organization. >>> while we're on the topic of the president's cabinet, secretary of state hillary clinton back at work today. she was out for almost a month with a stomach bug and then fell and got a concussion and doctors discovered a blood clot in her head. there's pics of the first day back. they even gave her a football helmet with the state department logo. because, of course, washington a contact sport. we threw our picks on our facebook page and they're generating great responses. the facebook friend raz lemons says, welcome back, madame president. is your screen name raz lemons? >> toure, actually. >> let us know what you're thinking. >>> dysfunctional politics. last-minute short-term finishes. is washington turning in to brussels on the potomac? that's scary. up next, a guest weighing on ame
. he was willing to take on susan rice for a while. that one ended up getting too difficult and she stepped aside but the president's got an attitude of i've been vindicated by the election and the record in the first term. i got bin laden, i wound down wars unpopular and he has a -- is looking at republicans and saying, you guys were smack talking me for a couple of years and you had the tea party in 2010 and you thought i was back on my heels but i've just been vindicated by the voters in the election with 51% and i'm going to try to impose my will as much as i can. >> chuck hagel and john kerry, the politico today, their headline story, points to how formidable these two might be for many reasons but, again, both being vietnam veterans and how this could with the president's agenda and strategy set the stage for wars in the future or the avoid answer of military footprint on the ground and the years ahead, john. >> well, i think to some degree the latter, tamron, is the relevant point here. the term vietnam veteran brings with it the -- all of the turmoil and the tumult and the s
, susan rice, these are really people obama knows and is close to. that's what he's trying to build for his second term. >> i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, democrat from california. always good to see you, congressman, good morning. >> thank you. good morning. >> do you think if this fight if it does materialize over chuck hagel could have the effect of taking the focus off of other things that need to get done? things like the debt ceiling? >> well, i don't think we could afford to let it get in the way of debt ceiling. we only have two or three months to get that done. that fight is getting frankly much more difficult than the fiscal cliff was. we have the debt limit which the president quite rightly has said he won't engage on that. we can't hold that kind of a revolver to the economy that way. but, nonetheless, the gop can shut down the government if it chooses. we have the sequester. so we have to deal with those issues. >> is that where we're headed? because there's been at least one suggestion by one republican that maybe a government shutdown is just what we need
of what happened to his nomination for ambassador susan rice. she withdrew her name for consideration in the aftermath of the benghazi comments she made. the president was willing to fight for hagel. what does that say about this president of the united states? >> number one, he wants to prove, i won the election. thank you very much. i should get my team. look at his resume, military service. it's hard to argue he's not qualified to be defense secretary. some people will raise questions about management experience. is he ready to do that? but the president number one, i'm willing to spend some political capital. we thought it might come over susan rice. it's now going to come over chuck hagel. he carried over george w. bush's defense secretary, bob gates, put his former rival at the state department. here is a guy who doesn't face re-election. he wants his team, people he's comfortable with. he wants people he's like-minded with and decided i'm going to have my guys in the second term. if i have to get a little bruised up to get them, i'll do it. >> their bond kind of goes back to ir
and having seen susan rice, who was widely speculated to be his choice for secretary of state, to see her have to withdraw her potential nomination, the president, i think, decided he's going to make it stick and make the republicans choke on it when it comes to chuck hagel. >> megyn: now, brennan, he's, you know, going to take over for petraeus at the cia and he's had a long history at the cia, apparently some feathers were ruffled and some weren't, whatever. but the thing about brennan,'s been in an important position, top advisor on counterterrorism to the president and he's been very absent on benghazi, on what happened to our ambassador on 9/11 of 12 when he was killed, the ambassador and three others. unlike susan rice ultimately didn't get the nod for the next secretary of state position because she did go out there on boss's orders and say stuff about benghazi, brennan didn't say anything about benghazi, does that help or hurt him now? >> probably helps him. look, he's going to have -- for mr. brennan he will have a difficult couple of days as he goes on the hill and answers quest
to try to get in his last remaining appointments some women in play. susan rice can stay in at u.n. but you want to get a few more. you might see more women becoming assistant secretaries, high-level ambassadorships on the foreign policy front and i think you'll find a woman finding a spot in one of the domestic cabinet posts. but it's, i think, the president felt he had to pick the people that were best and their names were kerry, brennan and hagel, after he floated rice around a little and she didn't track. >> because of the movie "lincoln" that's been out and doris concerns good win's book "team of rivals," obama's cabinet picks now for a second term are the least team of rivals ever. explain that a bit. >> yes. i mean these are a team of friends. i don't blame the president. look, you're in the second term now, you've won a big election like he did. you don't want to have to constantly pick the political choice. you want the person you think can get the job done. chuck hagel is not afraid to slash defense budgets. you really need a veteran to do that. the first secretary of d
the president kind of floated this trial balloon with susan rice and ended up not picking her. do you view this as a political move to try to win a fight with republicans? >> no, absolutely not. this is someone that the president inherently trusts, and this is one of the most important positions in the administration. so the president needs someone that he has faith is going to be able to preside over a transformation of our military, right? this is going to be one of the most important four-year periods of time in our military's history over the past several decades. we're going to be withdrawing from afghanistan. we're going to be figuring out our new footprint in the world, and the president trusts chuck hagel. and to try to make this sound like it's a pick outside of the mainstream is absolutely ridiculous. chuck hagel has been widely regarded as one of the smartest people on defense and national security issues on both sides of the aisle. many of his colleagues, who right now are contemplating voting against him in the united states senate have wonderful things to say about him. >> fo
on this? if you remember, jenna, the problems with susan rice when there was a lot of controversy when it was rumored she would be the next secretary of state? you had a bunch of women's groups that came out against republicans saying that they didn't want her to be secretary of state because she was a black and a woman. where are those groups now? if you notice, the president's nominee are all men, white men. not just men. white men. diversity is not just an gender. it is on race as well. jenna: what do you think they about stories like this and the pressure they can put on an administration of any party to select certain individuals for certain reasons and not necessarily because of qualifications? what kind of risk is that to the american public? >> it is a risk for the american public. and look, as a conservative i believe people should be chosen on ability, not on gender, not on race, not on sexual orientation or political stance but let's take labor secretary hilda solis. if the president wants a diverse latino you have javier becerra, democrat leadership. you have luis gutierrez
been in this photograph, a person, susan rice, who is one, black, two, a woman, and three, unrelated to either one of those things, not somebody who has exactly known for the most butter smooth personality in terms of getting along with people. there's a kind of larry summers abrasiveness aspect to her yet the idea was that she would be secretary of state. he meant if that didn't work out but it's hard for me to forget that in terms of what's going on now. so i think it's a ridiculous charge because of rice alone. >> and by the way, when she was put forward and we don't know if she was the first pick but when she was put forward she was immediately attacked and a25kd in the most debasing terms by people like john mccain saying, she's not smart enough and really attacked her in such an ugly way that i think it's ironic that anyone from the party having seen and witnessed and participated in that would turn the charge around on the president. >> so there's an interesting question here, i think, which is -- who has standing to make this claim? which i think ends up being the kind of sec
is leaving office. the homeland security secretary, we have ambassador susan rice indicating she is staying on in new york as the u.s. representative to the united nations. and there are you know, obviously other remarkably capable women in positions of high office in this administration and will continue to be. >> some of them, in terms of replacing secretary clinton leaving do you think -- >> i think any suggestion that secretary clinton was chosen because of her gender would be rejected by senator clinton and others. you know everyone that is secretaried in finding the very best people for every job. that is what he has done today and that is what he will continue to do. you know in that process he insists on diversity. on the list that he considers for the job because he believes that in casting a broader net you increase the excellence of the pool. in the end he will make the choice that he believes is best for the united states, -- >> when will we hear from the biden group? rir think the president indicated that he wants the effort led by vice president biden to report to him with dis
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